Major Changes at Netwinner!

By now most of you have noticed the changes in the GCs that are available. The only GC that is left is the reloadable Mastercard. Netwinner has also added some raffles to its "Prizes" section.
Some major changes in the games happened today. Players are now limited to 100 spins on the Moneywheel across all sites and to 10 cards on Banko. For example, you can no longer play all the Banko cards on the SR site and then switch to another site and keep playing. The same thing pertains to Moneywheel. Once you use up your 100 spins you cannot switch to another site and keep playing. Members in the Netwinner forums are posting that they are seeing a major decrease in the amount of points being won.
You can find more information on this topic in the Netwinner forums.

I've noticed since doing the site last summer that earning is alot slower (I started when it was unlimted spinning on just the main site). Lucikly I have SR to be my main money earner and will just do this one for the kickback to tricia and the odd gc I can cash out for.

I know though that it must be frustrating when you are use to a certain set up and system and then it gets changed on you.

I thought it was just Canadians that had no choices. I find playing banko fun, if any money comes from it that is a bonus.

One thing that everyone has to keep in mind is that they HAD to make these changes to stay in business. Do you know that there were people playing 110 games on FORTY different sites a day? Can you imagine how much they were making? Now add to that the fact that Netwinner gets paid less than a penny for every advertisement those people saw. And only when they saw them the first time. If Netwinner had even 30 different ads in a day, they probably were making about 3 cents off of that person. And if that person was cashing out for hundreds of dollars a month, Netwinner was losing so much money that they would go bankrupt.

I knew when I added them to our site that people would only be able to play their 110 games on one site a day. But I compare it to our arcade games and our Sunshine Scratch Off. People love playing our arcade games and making NOTHING. And they play Sunshine Scratch Off every day and probably average about 60 cents a person a month. But they still love to play. I figured that winning anything on Netwinner would be more than winning nothing playing the free games that we currently have.

I've been gaming and doing rewards sites online for over 10 years and I can't tell you how many sites like Netwinner I have seen go under because they were paying out too high on things compared to what they were taking in. I lost so much on reward sites, game sites, and paid surf sites that couldn't come through with their rewards. I have to respect that Netwinner is making the changes necessary to keep their heads above water.

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Originally Posted by SunshineGirl

One thing that everyone has to keep in mind is that they HAD to make these changes to stay in business. Do you know that there were people playing 110 games on FORTY different sites a day? Can you imagine how much they were making? Now add to that the fact that Netwinner gets paid less than a penny for every advertisement those people saw. And only when they saw them the first time. If Netwinner had even 30 different ads in a day, they probably were making about 3 cents off of that person. And if that person was cashing out for hundreds of dollars a month, Netwinner was losing so much money that they would go bankrupt.

I knew when I added them to our site that people would only be able to play their 110 games on one site a day. But I compare it to our arcade games and our Sunshine Scratch Off. People love playing our arcade games and making NOTHING. And they play Sunshine Scratch Off every day and probably average about 60 cents a person a month. But they still love to play. I figured that winning anything on Netwinner would be more than winning nothing playing the free games that we currently have.

I've been gaming and doing rewards sites online for over 10 years and I can't tell you how many sites like Netwinner I have seen go under because they were paying out too high on things compared to what they were taking in. I lost so much on reward sites, game sites, and paid surf sites that couldn't come through with their rewards. I have to respect that Netwinner is making the changes necessary to keep their heads above water.

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I agree. I have also been doing reward programs and paid to click and survey sites for a lot of years. It does suck when things change so drastically, but I understand why it happens. I hadnt played netwinner in months so it was no big deal to me, but now if its going to benefit SR I will keep playing daily.

Thanks for the easy to understand, rational explination.

I totally understand them cutting back the number of spins/cards in order for them to stay in business. I don't understand why they gave the users the opportunity to do so many in the first place though.:confused:

I also don't understand why they couldn't keep some kind of gift card. That is probably one of the biggest complaints because everyone is worried about not earning fast enough to avoid the inactivity fees on the ecount card. At least with a regular gift card, such as, hmmmm... let's say.... a DISNEY gift card:) , you could play until you earn one and not have to worry about whether it took 6 months or longer to do it.

I will continue to play my 100spins/10cards through SR and hope for the best!

I just want to know why people who are making FREE MONEY online still tend to complain so much, come on people it's FREE MONEY, where in the world can you go and have a great group of people who are all out for the same thing.
Get over it, if you don't get your extra spins or your 1 cent that's owed to you. Get over it. Please, I'm so sick of this me, me, me, attitude, be thankful for being alive and being able to get something for nothing!

Thanks for putting it all in perspective Tricia! I would much rather have a fun way to earn a little extra than see them go under for paying out too much!! I'm sure it has all been a learning curve for them as well- in the beginning there were unlimited spins, etc. but they are now modifying it to be around in the long run. It's free money to me so I don't have many complaints!

Other gift card options would be nice (esp Disney lol). I wonder though if they have run into the same issues that Tricia has with not being able to get discounts or breaks. In the end, they have to do what is profitable to them. We can hope that they can come up with other options as time goes by. It's still a fun little game to play!

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Originally Posted by icartjetta

I just want to know why people who are making FREE MONEY online still tend to complain so much, come on people it's FREE MONEY, where in the world can you go and have a great group of people who are all out for the same thing.
Get over it, if you don't get your extra spins or your 1 cent that's owed to you. Get over it. Please, I'm so sick of this me, me, me, attitude, be thankful for being alive and being able to get something for nothing!

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Have a little sunshine:) :sunshine: :sunshine: :sunshine:

This is the message I got today after finishing my spins. It's not a problem for me because I didn't play netwinner before it was offered on SR. Besides, it takes me all day to play those 100 spins/10 cards. If I had more, I wouldn't get anything done.:computer:

Important Information Regarding Play Limits


Thank you for playing our game. We constantly listen to our users while striving to improve your online gaming experience.

We have seen that a small percentage of users who play for extended periods are winning a disproportionate amount of cash and points that should be available to win for all users. In fairness to all our loyal players, we are instituting play limits on our games – 100 daily spins on MoneyWheel and 10 daily cards on Banko.

Come back every day for your chance to win our progressive Jackpot or your share of thousands of dollars in cash and prizes daily!

Good luck!

I can't imagine playing my 100 games of the money wheel and then going to another site to play 100 more. I will play banko everyday and money wheel when ever I have some extra time.

Frankly, I'm at the computer long enough playing my 100 spins & 10 banko cards. I can't imagine going to other sites and playing even more. I don't do tons of reward sites, survey sites or game sites cause I just don't have time! nor do I want to spend all my free time at the computer. So Netwinner works just fine for me! And I hope SR "wins" by my participation.

The 100 wheel, and 10 Banko are PLENTY for me!

I think the only people that will be upset will be the professional sit at your computer all day making a penny here and there people who should really find a real job if thats all they do. SR, Netwinner and all the other places like them are just to earn a little extra something, not meant to be a main income. But first and foremost, I think they are meant to make friendships and have fun with.

Good Night! I would have to have 3 or more computers to do all that! I mean really I open two or 3 new screens just browse SR, the forum and surveys. I couldnt imagine anymore than that. You know someone would have to spend HOURS to do all that on a daily basis. And really I am luckly just to able to MAKE time for SR. It is about time that Netwinner take up for themselves, if its not to late.
And you know what we better be thankful for what we have here because if we keep growing :sunshine: Well eventually there will have to be some changes here to. And that is just keeping things in perspective.
Just my opinion, :rotfl:

Before I saw the message Kycha posted above, I was already thinking about that. It would stand to reason that if there is a limit on the number of spins, we all may have a better chance at getting points- rather than just a few people. There should be more $$ in the pot for everyone. Can you imagine if one person maxed out all of the chances across 40 sites? That's 400 Banko cards and 4,000 spins- with those odds, I'm sure that they had plenty of "wins". Most people wouldn't use up all of those chances, but some really would. As Cindy said, it isn't meant to be a get rich quick deal- it's a fun way to earn a little bit here and there. And hopefully by placing limits it will also ease up (and speed up) their cashout process. :)

I never did get through all of my 100 spins yesterday LOL.

I know,It's changed alot since the last time I played

I'm really glad to hear that everyone understands. With the economy as bad as it is, it was only a matter of time before it hit the online rewards and games as well. I think I'm a little overly sensitive on the issue because SR is having to make some tough decisions right now as well to make sure that we stay around for the long run. This is the toughest time of the year for online advertising and the toughest year that the economy has had in a long time. Add to that the increase of fraud in general across sites and you have a perfect storm of revenue losses for sites like SR and Netwinner.

It will get better. It will all get better. We'll ride out the worst part of the year right now and see some sunshine before too long.

With you at the helm, Tricia, and all of us devoted fans of the site, SR is bound to survive and thrive!:sunshine:

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Originally Posted by SunshineGirl

I'm really glad to hear that everyone understands. With the economy as bad as it is, it was only a matter of time before it hit the online rewards and games as well. I think I'm a little overly sensitive on the issue because SR is having to make some tough decisions right now as well to make sure that we stay around for the long run. This is the toughest time of the year for online advertising and the toughest year that the economy has had in a long time. Add to that the increase of fraud in general across sites and you have a perfect storm of revenue losses for sites like SR and Netwinner.

It will get better. It will all get better. We'll ride out the worst part of the year right now and see some sunshine before too long.

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I second what Pat said AND the OP's! I have YET to go through my 100 spins, takes way to long. Do my 10 Banko and move on...... I spend ENOUGH time on SR.... :)

I almost always to the 10 banko and at least 50 spins. My biggest amount was for 1250 on one of the promo spins.

Today I bit the bullet and did all 10 Banko and 100 Money Wheel spins just to see how much I'd get in points total. My biggest "hits" were for 250 points, and I ended up 1005 credits ahead of where I started. That's not too shabby! This is the second best day for me (the 2nd day I hit 5000 on the Money wheel) since SR started their affilitation. Prior to this, I was not a member of NetWinner, nor did I even know of their existence. Anyway, I think, overall, it's a great new addition to SR!:sunshine:

wow i cant believe people can play that long. the 100 is way to many for me i end up doing like 20

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Originally Posted by aknight373

wow i cant believe people can play that long. the 100 is way to many for me i end up doing like 20

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I can't play for that long, either. I did it in about 4 different sessions.:)

I have noticed that when I get close to finishing my 100 spins, I tend to win more. Nothing to back that up other then it seems to be a trend I'm noticing. I usually get at least 300 points a day but have gotten up to 1500 but that was a while ago.

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Originally Posted by belbook

I have noticed that when I get close to finishing my 100 spins, I tend to win more.

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That's exactly what I was thinking too! Off to see if it works today!