More Fraud Information

[tfriend2000]

Personally, I'd really appreciate it if they would come up with a term other than "fraud" to describe people who are participating within the Terms of Service.
I find it kind of insulting to sign up for a 10 day offer, cancel after 4 days, and then being told that I am a Fraud.

Fraud to me implies an intentional desire to cheat, and I would never do that.

I hope it is a better day for you Tricia. What a headache!

[kimntrent]

I agree with you 100%. I believe they are the ones doing it. I haven't seen Tricia at all today so I am sure she is having a great day.

Kim
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[Hannahsmom]

Hmmmm, let's talk about what I consider to be "Fraud".

1.) I think it is fraudulent to continue to charge someone for a service after that person has followed the terms and conditions and cancelled within a given time frame, as per the T & C.

2.) I think it is fraudulent to not pay as promised for personal information given.

3.) I think it is fraudulent for not shipping items that have been paid for.
(also, not giving credit for same item, but still charging your CC)

4.) I think it is suspicious when advertisers no longer wish to accept anything other than a CC.

I DO think there are a group of people out there that are participating in certifiable FRAUD. Where there is money to be made, there will be fraud.
But I think the advertisers are the pot calling the kettle black.

On a side note, Tricia your site is the best. Hang in there!

[linanglab]

Well said!!!!

Angela

[3dog2kidmom]

Hmmmm, let's talk about what I consider to be "Fraud".

1.) I think it is fraudulent to continue to charge someone for a service after that person has followed the terms and conditions and cancelled within a given time frame, as per the T & C.

2.) I think it is fraudulent to not pay as promised for personal information given.

3.) I think it is fraudulent for not shipping items that have been paid for.
(also, not giving credit for same item, but still charging your CC)

4.) I think it is suspicious when advertisers no longer wish to accept anything other than a CC.

I DO think there are a group of people out there that are participating in certifiable FRAUD. Where there is money to be made, there will be fraud.
But I think the advertisers are the pot calling the kettle black.

On a side note, Tricia your site is the best. Hang in there!

What she said!!

[IfoundNemo]

And while we are on the subject of fraud, I know some of you may receive a letter from me about multiple accounts. If anyone has used your computer, or if you have used someone elses to log onto SR that uses it also for SR, it shows up as a duplicate and the advertisers are after us to cancel one of the accounts. They watch this very close. Sometimes we can get around it, sometimes we can't, just depending on how many times they have seen the duplicate from a computer. They are cracking down, so please, do not sign into SR on another members computer, even if its a sister, a mom, a cousin, a coworker, because they are catching these through the IPs. Just wanted to clarify why you may get a letter. I know this isn't intentional fraud, but we can't convince advertisers of this. Only one account per household is allowed.

Oh no, where these letters sent out already? I had no idea that you couldn't sign-in on a different computer. I have been a member for a while now, but I just signed up my employer recently. I signed into her account from my home computer to get her set up, and I often sign in to my account on my work computer, which is what I used to sign her up. Does this mean I am going to lose my account? Obviously I am not going to do this again, but I am hoping it isn't too late.

[DooDahDay]

And while we are on the subject of fraud, I know some of you may receive a letter from me about multiple accounts. If anyone has used your computer, or if you have used someone elses to log onto SR that uses it also for SR, it shows up as a duplicate and the advertisers are after us to cancel one of the accounts. They watch this very close. Sometimes we can get around it, sometimes we can't, just depending on how many times they have seen the duplicate from a computer. They are cracking down, so please, do not sign into SR on another members computer, even if its a sister, a mom, a cousin, a coworker, because they are catching these through the IPs. Just wanted to clarify why you may get a letter. I know this isn't intentional fraud, but we can't convince advertisers of this. Only one account per household is allowed.

I've been really stressing out over this and I have a question that maybe Cindy or Tricia can answer....If I am checking my email at my daughter's house and I get an email from Sunshine, am I engaging in fraudulent behavior to open it? Would that be signing in?

TIA,
Joanne

[SunshineGirl]

No one would lose their accounts automatically, but you would likely get a letter for logging in from two accounts on the same computer.

Essentially we not have to watch for ANY time that two people log in from the same computer. Say you only get an email from us, but the advertiser is paying for you to click on the email. If you click on the link from someone's computer and they then click on their link later from that same computer, the advertiser assumes fraud. So we now have to do the same thing even if you only log in to check your email.

For that reason, we have started sending out emails when we see any duplication of computers, IPs, etc. Cindy will email you to check to see why there are duplicates. If it is an honest mistake, she will just put you on a 30 day notice and send you on your merry way. But she WILL check back over the 30 days to see if it happens again. We just can't be too careful with all of the spotlight put on this stuff right now.

Speaking of which, this stuff is going INSANE on the wahm boards. I've been reading some of the threads and people are really going after the rewards site owners! I'm so glad that you all are so understanding!!

[sammielynn]

Why are you up at 4:00 AM. Get some sleep.

[jl8595]

Speaking of which, this stuff is going INSANE on the wahm boards. I've been reading some of the threads and people are really going after the rewards site owners! I'm so glad that you all are so understanding!!

Tricia - that's terrible to hear! I guess people always feel the need to place blame. The other rewards sites are probably not as good at communicating, so the members are reacting in mass hysteria. Your honesty and strong communication skills keep us all in check. Thank you!!